Oral traditions
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Or 'all knowledge is not contained on the internet' in fact. When I was a small child my father used to tell me bedtime stories. Some of them were poems. And one of our favourites was this...
"It was a dark and stormy night
The brigands they sat in their cave
The chief of the brigands arose, and he said
"Antonio, tell us a storio!"
And this is what he said.
"It was a dark and stormy night..."
Well, you get the idea. This could go on for some time. It's clearly a fairly widespread meme; the Ahlbergs wrote a book about it, for example.
M has just noticed that Googling for the version I learnt yields no results, though there's an instructive comment thread here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listeners/openinglines.shtml in which various people ascribe it to their fathers or the Scouts.
So. Do you remember this from your childhood? What words did you use? Where were you, geographically, at the time?
I have noted before that despite the work of the Opies, the rhymes remembered and told by children (in playgrounds and around campfires) are not, by and large, well documented as a tradition.
"It was a dark and stormy night
The brigands they sat in their cave
The chief of the brigands arose, and he said
"Antonio, tell us a storio!"
And this is what he said.
"It was a dark and stormy night..."
Well, you get the idea. This could go on for some time. It's clearly a fairly widespread meme; the Ahlbergs wrote a book about it, for example.
M has just noticed that Googling for the version I learnt yields no results, though there's an instructive comment thread here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listeners/openinglines.shtml in which various people ascribe it to their fathers or the Scouts.
So. Do you remember this from your childhood? What words did you use? Where were you, geographically, at the time?
I have noted before that despite the work of the Opies, the rhymes remembered and told by children (in playgrounds and around campfires) are not, by and large, well documented as a tradition.
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Date: 2013-03-06 05:16 am (UTC)Her version went:
Twas a dark and stormy night,
And the moon was at its height,
And the captain said to his mate:
"Mate! Tell us a tale!"
And this is the tale he told...
Sometimes she'd change it up a bit and use Bosun instead of captain, usually once the "mate" is telling the tale. Each time she repeated it it would become more dramatic so the words would have longer vowels. Or she'd go quieter and quieter, then all of a sudden shout "boo!" :D
It was a dark and stormy night
Date: 2013-03-20 06:08 pm (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night. And seated 'round the campfire were brigands young, and brigands old. And the captain turned to his brave lieutenant and said, "Alphonse, tell us a story." And Alphonse began...
Yet another version of "It was a dark........
Date: 2013-05-03 08:42 pm (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night,
The rain came down in torrents.
The captain said to Antonio,
"Antonio, tell us a tale-io."
And this is the tale-io Antonio spun-io.
It was a dark and stormy night........
Now my 3 year old grand daughter enjoys telling the story!
stormy
Date: 2013-05-06 09:34 pm (UTC)"The night was dark and stormy, and there were Brigands and there were Demons and the Brigands said unto the Demons Tell us a tale, and the take ran as follows The night was dark......"
A meeting of brigands
Date: 2013-06-19 09:15 am (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night...
and three bands of brigands met.
"Tell us a tale!" said the leader of one
and this is the tale they said...
It was a dark and stormy night ... etc
I always had visions of three groups of muttering men with hats and hoods and cloaks and dark expressions and cutlasses (a bit like characters from 'Les Miserables') somehow bumping into each other in the rain at some three-directional crossroads. I remember thinking that the telling of the endless story was the only way in which the situation was kept under control, otherwise a fight could erupt at any time (or perhaps that is the way dad explained it to us).
I have enjoyed passing this story on to our three daughters and I will occasionally drop it into a conversation with them with the introduction "Who would like to hear a story?". There are always groans from the girls when they finally hear what the story is, but I know they secretly enjoy it. The other thing I sometimes do is tell the story through several times, but changing the emphasis on individual words, just to drag it out even longer (and annoy them even more); but also to show them how that device can change the meaning of a sentence. eg 'IT was a dark and stormy night' is different to 'It was a dark and stormy NIGHT' (accompanied by raised eyebrows etc). Let us never forget that it is compulsory for dads to tell bad jokes, especially in a household of girls.
The girls and I Googled this tonight, after I retold the 'tale' at dinner, as we were keen to see where it originated from. We live in Brisbane, Australia but both my parents emigrated from the UK as children after WWII.
I know our girls will pass it on to their children (along with a few dad "jokes").
Thanks for the opportunity to add to the discussion - very interesting to see how far the version we learned has strayed from the 'Antonio' text.
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Date: 2013-07-29 11:57 am (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night and the rain came down in torrents. The brigand said "Antonio tell us a tale" and Antonio said.....it was a dark and stormy night....
My grandfather was called William Earnest Phillip from Liverpool and he was a master builder.
Oral Traditions
Date: 2013-08-16 01:58 am (UTC)Gathered around the campfire were brigands large and brigands small.
The Captain said to Antonio,
"Antonio, tell us a story", and Antonio thus began:
Twas a dark and stormy night...
My grandfather, who lived from 1881-1961 recounted this to me over and over again at my request when I was a child. He spent most of his life in the New York City area, but he did live briefly in the Midwest.
I used to think this was hilarious, but I remember vividly how annoying it was to my mother (his daughter) and grandmother. I still think it is fun!
Oral traditions
Date: 2013-09-21 09:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-11-05 09:46 pm (UTC)It was a Dark and Stormy night and the wind was howling wild, Three bad, wicked bandits sat around the camp fire, and one said unto Antonio "Antonio, spin us a yarn" and Antonio began as follows...
My Mum always said this
Date: 2013-12-03 08:36 pm (UTC)Two men stood on the bridge,
And the captain said unto his mate,
"Antonio, tell us a tale,"
And the tale, it went like this:
It was a dark and stormy night,
Two men stood on the bridge...
dark and stormy night
Date: 2014-01-12 12:26 am (UTC)My favorite childhood tale
Date: 2014-04-03 11:11 am (UTC)And the rain came down in torrents.
And Antonio said to Antonio,
"Tell us a tale."
And the tale began as follows...
(Spoken in an ominous voice and repeated incessantly.)
In the 1950s, my father frequently told us this story at bedtime, usually by special request. We lived in the suburbs north of Chicago, but his family was from the Manchester/Derbyshire area of the UK.
In turn, I frequently shared this story with my own children as well as hundreds of young children during my 25 years of teaching in Pinellas County, Florida.
It is interesting to see how this simple story has evolved over the years. Thank you for rekindling happy memories. :)
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Date: 2014-05-13 12:02 pm (UTC)'Twas on a dark and stomry night
The campfires were burning bright
There were brigands small and brigands tall
And the little gazable said to the big gazable
Tell us an oooold war story
And the big gazable begun
'Twas on a dark and stormy night...
no subject
Date: 2014-05-20 07:11 pm (UTC)This was how it was told to me by my grandfather when I was a boy. It is now my 6 year old sons favourite bed time storey. as the storey progresses it gets DARKER and STORMIER but also softer until say about 5 minutes into the captain says ..it's time for young Johnathan to go to sleep!
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Date: 2014-07-01 02:51 pm (UTC)Bill said 'tell us a story', so this is the story I told...
etc.
Quite different from the other versions but the same general theme. My dad told me this when I was growing up in London in the 1970s / 80s, but I have no idea where he would have got it from - he was born in India, moved to Dorset as a child, went to high school in Canada and then spent several years in the Merchant Navy.
Dark and Stormy Night
Date: 2014-10-23 10:46 pm (UTC)The night was dark
Date: 2014-11-11 10:56 pm (UTC)The night was dark and dreary, and the rain cam down in torrents. These were the words of Osonio, and Osonio says as follows. The night ....
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Date: 2014-12-20 10:52 pm (UTC)"It was a dark and stormy night,
and the rain came down in torrents.
The chief of the Brigands said to Antonio, "Tell us a tale!"
and he began as follows:"
(repeat aud nausium)
Three robbers
Date: 2015-01-18 06:59 am (UTC)It was a dark, cold and stooooormy night,
Three robbers sat in a cave.
One said to another,
Antonio, tell us a tale.
And Antonio began…
etc.
We used to have fun eliding the words and running them together, thus:
'Three robbers….. sat'n'a'cave',' and so on.
Official Version
Date: 2015-03-31 12:29 am (UTC)'It was a dark and stormy night.. and Antonio, chief of the Brigands - said unto Sebastian - "Sebastian! Spin us a yarn!" - and Sebastian spun as follows... 'It was a dark and stormy night...'
it was a dark and stormy night
Date: 2015-04-05 08:49 pm (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night
And the stars were shining bright
And the Captain said to his men "I'll tell you a story"
And this is what he said.........
( G A Pick)
Dark and Stormy Night
Date: 2015-05-23 01:18 pm (UTC)Twas a deep, dark, damp dismal night in the middle of the Hartz Mountains.
Twelve bandits were seated around the fire.
One Bandit, speaking suddenly said: "Scuddy, tell us a funny story".
And Scuddy, seating himself on the window sill, told the following tale.
My daughters were raised on it, much to their chagrin.
Dark and stormy night
Date: 2015-05-29 01:40 am (UTC)we got told one similar by Dad
Date: 2015-06-22 05:44 pm (UTC)it was a dark dark night, and the wind was blowing, the rain was pouring, and the skipper said to his mate, mate, tell us a tale, and this is the tale he told.....(repeat)
It was a dark and stormy night.
Date: 2015-09-06 10:41 pm (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night
And the captain said to the mate
"Aaaaaay mate tell us a story.
And this was the story he told.
It was a dark and stormy night etc etc
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Date: 2016-02-27 04:05 am (UTC)It was a dark and stormy night
And the the rain came down in torrents
And I turned to the skipper
'Skipper, tell me a tale'
And the tale he told was as follows..
It was a dark and stormy night etc